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Re: WARNING: Utilities Trying to End Solar Net Metering by CHARGING MORE
Reply #2 - Nov 3rd, 2015 at 11:41pm
 
Several updates below.

This is a really good recent (Oct 2015) article on the power company's arguments. Of course the "estimate" is from a power company!

"According to APS figures, it would cost the utility $154 a month to serve the average solar customer"

Yea right, if you think I am going to cover that amount, I can then afford more batteries and panels and will say bye bye to you, how about that?

APS estimate: Solar customers underpay significantly Oct 9, 2015
http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/energy/2015/10/08/aps-solar-custom...

Everyone is jumping on this $50 extra a month crap, MORE AND MORE STATES:

California utilities copy Arizona utilities� solar-panel fees Aug 17, 2015
http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/consumer/2015/08/17/california-uti...


$50 Average increase for customers in AZ ! 02/26/2015

http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/2015/02/26/srp-board-oks-rate-hike...

The good news for AZ, HI and WI for now:

"Arizona Public Service Co. said Friday it will put off its quest to raise rates on solar customers until its rate hearings begin next summer" (Meaning 2016)
http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/energy/2015/09/25/aps-gives-up-fig...

Court rejects Wisconsin utility�s fee on solar customers
http://midwestenergynews.com/2015/10/30/court-rejects-wisconsin-utilitys-fee-on-...
The groups argued that the new fee specifically on people with solar installations was �discriminatory,� and that We Energies had not provided proof that such fees were necessary to make sure those customers paid their �fair share� for upkeep of the grid.


The group that is doing a lot of legal work FOR SOLAR USERS and companies on this issue:
The Alliance for Solar Choice
http://allianceforsolarchoice.com/
Read their posts on Facebook, Twitter, Youtube:
https://www.facebook.com/alliance4solar/?_fb_noscript=1
https://twitter.com/alliance4solar?lang=en
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFUYq6FYDzwdfud9p4gmJww/videos


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Re: WARNING: Utilities Trying to End Solar Net Metering by CHARGING MORE
Reply #1 - Sep 22nd, 2015 at 12:37am
 
Where is everyone on this issue?

Everyone with solar needs to demand new rules AGAINST the power companies, like a "demand charge" or really a "demand credit" against them when we provide power during times of need, or high demand times they have like brownout times in summer. When we reduce their need to turn on more plants or buy higher price power from outside grids or how about them spewing more pollution.

We are reducing their fuel demand and reducing THEIR old school pollution with our solar panels and wind energy so they need to compensate us more !

Is it going to take a class action lawsuit across the whole country to get some common sense here?

If there was a "demand credit" in any of these new rules then people might see the benefit of having some lithium batteries to time shift their grid tie OUTPUT to later times after sundown maybe, since this is the main complaint of the power companies. We can do that but it better offset their lame "demand charge" and maybe give us some credits off that monthly base fee for being connected.

Do you understand that ALL Net Meter installs in AZ, CA, NV and maybe others will start being charged extra?

This means all you Enphase people out there and all the SolarCity type people that got those installs.

We already pay a monthly base fee for grid maintenance, and so we want to use the grid we pay for. Most of us also want to contribute to the move to a greener planet and renewable energy and pay extra money as an INVESTMENT into OUR future of clean energy.

Now the power company wants to try to take that future away.

OK, we can play that game too, we understand and have technology available to us that will time shift when we pump power into the grid, and a lot of us may invest in that to see the future be more clean and TAKE AWAY THE OLD SCHOOL POLLUTION RIDDEN GREEDY CORPORATE BASTARDS ability to tell us how we want the future to be.

We could have receivers that get a signal that the grid needs power NOW to prevent a brown out, we can do that, will they provide that? All kinds of ideas come to mind if these greedy bastards would actually think of OUR real future of clean renewable energy.

Yea, I'm freaking mad as hell about this, what about you?

Come on people, let's get on this before they set in some lame rules that the rest of the country will follow.

We need a "demand credit" and higher payback from them when we provide premium power when the grid needs it most !

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WARNING: Utilities Trying to End Solar Net Metering by CHARGING MORE
Sep 2nd, 2015 at 3:15am
 
California, Nevada and others trying now, Arizona already screwed it all up!

�20-year pattern� of utilities opposing smart clean-energy policy.

They hate meters going backwards!

Arizona�s Salt River Project (SRP) -- voted to impose �demand charges� and other fees that discriminate against residential solar customers, over the objections of the solar industry, just as the California AND Nevada utilities have proposed to do.

Within a month, rooftop solar adoption in SRP territory fell by 96 percent. The utility maintained its monopoly, while the solar industry was virtually banned by utility fiat. As an unregulated utility answerable to no one, SRP was able to do exactly what was in its own interests, and it didn�t hesitate to cause damage to the local economy to serve those interests.

Like SRP, California and Nevada utilities now propose to implement punitive demand charges on new solar customers, and deny them full bill credit through net metering.

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http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/SolarCity-CEO-Lyndon-Rive-Makes-the-...
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